I will probably never believe that Trump is finished until and unless I see it happen, but anecdotally I’ve seen significantly more backlash from actual GOP base voters I know for this midterm than I have any other time. I’m sorry this election outside of a few states was simply an unmitigated disaster for not only DJT (who btw doesn’t seem that interested in this debacle, but rather about his endorsement record) but most of the GOP.
Regardless of who and what you choose to blame (Dobbs affected some states more than others, but it was still a clear factor), it is clear that the party cannot continue on its current course. They need to remove McDaniel and make Lee Zeldin the head of the RNC and fire half of the congressional leadership at the bare minimum. And if we don’t do that by 2024, we are probably losing no matter if the nominee is Trump or DeSantis.
DeSantis has obviously done well in Florida, but he had to get pushed over the line in 2018 and he's been pushed right politically by Trump. We don't know how he'd be now without Trump in the picture, especially at the federal level as President. People forget that he was a standard GOP congressman for years before Trump declared in 2015, he was on track to be a standard GOP nobody his entire career. There is nothing that proves he won't be Bush III, good as a Governor, completely owned as President. And with the types of neocon cretans circling his bandwagon that certainly looks like it could be the case.
He's also greatly benefited from Florida's rightward shift since 2012, Florida has long been trending right and DeSantis rightly leaned into that and marketed Florida as a refuge for stranded right wingers in deep blue states to move to since 2018. He should stay in Florida until his term as Governor is up to continue to advance States' rights and see what can be achieved on that front as the federal apparatus gets more blue and red state-blue state balkanization increases. In my opinion that is arguably more important, especially long-term.
Hey Scott long time listener first time question asker: what do you think about Kobach’s win in Kansas? While dorky GOP types like Derek Schmidt and Amanda Atkins got trounced, Kris Kobach, the most polarizing figure in the state, won! Do you think that disproves the narrative that Trump candidates are a drag on the party?
While it is a good explanation for DeSantis‘ strong performance in FL, I don‘t think the „mass exodus from Blue states to Red states“ argument is that useful when applied to other regions. I‘m skeptical of it having real significance in the Rust Belt, and certainly, Gavin Newsom‘s relatively underwhelming victory in CA‘s gubernatorial election (Republican opponent got 42 per cent) doesn‘t quite fit this model - I would have thought the charismatic Libtard caudillo would be approaching 70 per cent after years of en masse departure of conservatives from his state and basically no significant, united Republican effort to topple him like in last year‘s Recall attempt
I think the most important part of this election is being a referendum on the status quo. Winning the House is arguably more important than the Senate, which the Democrats only have a tie breaker majority. I don't think anyone gives a shit about McConnell being back in charge, it's more about sending a message. Republicans also had more seats to defend, losing just one race by a point with three possible pickups left honestly ain't bad
I will probably never believe that Trump is finished until and unless I see it happen, but anecdotally I’ve seen significantly more backlash from actual GOP base voters I know for this midterm than I have any other time. I’m sorry this election outside of a few states was simply an unmitigated disaster for not only DJT (who btw doesn’t seem that interested in this debacle, but rather about his endorsement record) but most of the GOP.
Regardless of who and what you choose to blame (Dobbs affected some states more than others, but it was still a clear factor), it is clear that the party cannot continue on its current course. They need to remove McDaniel and make Lee Zeldin the head of the RNC and fire half of the congressional leadership at the bare minimum. And if we don’t do that by 2024, we are probably losing no matter if the nominee is Trump or DeSantis.
DeSantis has obviously done well in Florida, but he had to get pushed over the line in 2018 and he's been pushed right politically by Trump. We don't know how he'd be now without Trump in the picture, especially at the federal level as President. People forget that he was a standard GOP congressman for years before Trump declared in 2015, he was on track to be a standard GOP nobody his entire career. There is nothing that proves he won't be Bush III, good as a Governor, completely owned as President. And with the types of neocon cretans circling his bandwagon that certainly looks like it could be the case.
He's also greatly benefited from Florida's rightward shift since 2012, Florida has long been trending right and DeSantis rightly leaned into that and marketed Florida as a refuge for stranded right wingers in deep blue states to move to since 2018. He should stay in Florida until his term as Governor is up to continue to advance States' rights and see what can be achieved on that front as the federal apparatus gets more blue and red state-blue state balkanization increases. In my opinion that is arguably more important, especially long-term.
Hey Scott long time listener first time question asker: what do you think about Kobach’s win in Kansas? While dorky GOP types like Derek Schmidt and Amanda Atkins got trounced, Kris Kobach, the most polarizing figure in the state, won! Do you think that disproves the narrative that Trump candidates are a drag on the party?
While it is a good explanation for DeSantis‘ strong performance in FL, I don‘t think the „mass exodus from Blue states to Red states“ argument is that useful when applied to other regions. I‘m skeptical of it having real significance in the Rust Belt, and certainly, Gavin Newsom‘s relatively underwhelming victory in CA‘s gubernatorial election (Republican opponent got 42 per cent) doesn‘t quite fit this model - I would have thought the charismatic Libtard caudillo would be approaching 70 per cent after years of en masse departure of conservatives from his state and basically no significant, united Republican effort to topple him like in last year‘s Recall attempt
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Hi Scott, thanks for the podcast! I don't remember you discussing election integrity in this podcast. Could you weigh in on this at some point?
I think the most important part of this election is being a referendum on the status quo. Winning the House is arguably more important than the Senate, which the Democrats only have a tie breaker majority. I don't think anyone gives a shit about McConnell being back in charge, it's more about sending a message. Republicans also had more seats to defend, losing just one race by a point with three possible pickups left honestly ain't bad