Great piece. “National divorce” and “get out of cities” rhetoric serves the same function on the Right that doctrinaire libertarianism did 15 years ago. Proponents don’t want to admit (to themselves or others) that they hold (legitimately subversive) opinions—or how hard it would be to turn those opinions into policy. So they avoid doing so with supposedly edgy fantasies. Thanks for doing yeoman’s work on this front and encouraging people to focus on the real concerns of white middle and working class Americans
Well you tell us to vote harder and we do but it never changes anything. Republicans had all three branches of the federal government from 2000 to 2006 and did next to nothing. Tea Party groups were mercilessly harassed by Obama's IRS from 2010 to 2012 which prevented them from fundraising to elect candidates and campaign against Obama's re-election bid. We voted hard for Trump in 2016 and again had all three branches of govt until the 2018 midterms and all we got was tax cuts and the First Step Act. In fact, during the Trump administration the radical left rampaged through the institutions and persecuted right of center voters like never before all while Trump entertained Kim Kardashian in the oval office and tweeted.
Now the radical left is attempting to keep right wing Republicans off the ballot using lawfare tactics. But there's no point to winning elections when Republicans refuse to wield power on behalf of their voters.
Scott says the states won't leave because they need federal assistance but look at E. Palestine, OH and the lack of federal support for that disaster should tell you that we are entering an era where Democrat administrations will not assist red states. Biden admin refuses to lift a finger in helping border states turn back illegal aliens and massive amounts of deadly drugs. The federal government, at least under Democrats, is fast becoming illegitimate.
Of course there are a lot of practical problems with an immediate national divorce but most who desire it know that and don't expect it to happen overnight. But Scott is like the CIA agents in the 1980's who confidently predicted that the Soviet Union would endure for decades before it suddenly collapsed a few short years later.
Well, thanks for crushing my dreams today. No joke, though, I've thought about how that would look and you are 100% correct. The 2 ?s I have are these:
1. How are Republicans supposed to gain any power when the right to assemble is almost always spied upon and shut down, even for made up reasons?
2. What, exactly, can the average citizen do to advance the cultural and economic policies that are important to the Euro-western American ideal?
Scott, I wrote this on another post but deleted it. I think you are one of the most realpolitik conservative thinkers out there. But it seems that a lot of your focus especially your guests are about political philosophy, commentary on events, or historical analysis. I think there is a wide gap and need for conservative populist policy analysis and ideas. There is a coalition of non radical whites, assimilated Hispanics and a marriage of mutual interest with asians that haven’t intermarried and assimilated already (also their birthrate is really low so if immigration was stopped it wouldn’t be an issue).
The fiscally libertarian and socially faux conservative (10 year lag liberal) isn’t working, other nations are using state power to strip industries from us and we are socially much more radical than any other western country (Sweden banned transing kids and doctors openly state transitioning will not help patient outcomes). Looking at Chris rufo and his work in education we need to encourage the 30% of America that is conservatives to work at disbanding, negating or shrinking hostile policy and institutions.
For instance:
- analysis: how did the growth of colleges and necessity for a middle class allow far left actors funding and social institutional authority over broader society. Solution: reduction by eliminating general ed (most radical classes for normal majors and waste of 1.5 years and tuition), allowing high school students to take lower division classes online (economics 101 doesn’t need a uni professor and elimination at hostile institutions would reduce societal influence, would also be cheaper so 70/30 issue). Disbanding: 22 states republicans have all three branches they can eliminate gender and ethnic studies and dei, (this is where the focus should have been the last 30 years than complaining about some celebrity clearly trying to get attention, most countries would never allow these majors to exist, gender and ethnic classes should at most be one classes added on to a history major...not a major in itself). Negating: creating value option for students to only pay for classes they take and rejecting usage of faculty or material not including the professor and the class room (cheaper college is 70/30 issue).
-analysis: 50% black births not in a cohabitating or married couple, these are the main people going to prison and anti American. Solution: provide free iuds to all residents in us over 16. (these are the main source of anti Americanism outside of far left whites, providing this would reduce population, reduce crime, reduce welfare and ballot harvesting demographics and would provide answer to poverty outside of “just get married”...just don’t have kids if you can’t afford them we are giving you free birth control). This would also negate the abortion issue and allow to stop losing so dramatically among women (a much larger and reachable voter base than getting 10% more of the black vote...it’s not happening and even if it does it’s not game changing, winning 50% of young white women or more is)
-pushing the narrative that low skilled immigrants don’t help the economy when the benefits they recieve is more than how much they provide in taxes. This is the main pushback besides faux humanitarian angle that is pushed. If people realized that their taxes are subsidizing big businesses cheap labor it would change the Overton window on the issue. This should be pushed forward with machines and temporary work visas (no birthright).
-analysis: pat Buchanan (and other paleo cons) have noted the rapid population growth of theirs world counties with no prospects in their own country due to self negligence causing the push factor on migration. Solution: the main reason for this was the combination of the lowering of infant mortality (around 50% by 15 100 years ago) and the lack of women’s education and birth control (shortening child bearing window). Diverting 50bn from the military budget providing IUDs and women’s education to low income countries would solve this issue ....most developing countries that have done this are already below replacement fertility as their economy is not strong enough for pronatalist policies.
This sort of analysis is very lacking and it can be pushed in ways that are 70/30 issues. This is much more productive and mainstream ideas for cons to rally around than these fake soulutions/ Christian copes/ dems are the real racists/ conservative reactionary entertainment complex. This also will prevent what will happen in 20-40 year if mass unskilled (mostly illiterate, linguistically segregated) immigration married to anti-white rhetoric as the rallying solution to their economic woes .... an America Chavez... it’s simple a large lower class hostile to the rest of society will use their political power to take the others economic and military power.
As a GenXer, yes more federalism. That's how we started under the Articles of Confederation. We had a confederate system BEFORE the Civil War. I don't fancy political figures other than Trump consistently, but MTG saying shit which amounted to throwing shit out there and thinking out loud is a good thing. The more the rhetoric the better the critical mass. I don't out much stock in 1 million twit accounts. Trump has been the only one that has done anything that amounts to being a baller. The rest are legends in their own mind.
I remember people calling up and discussing this subject on talk radio during the Rodney King riots. It was aired on the Bob Grant show and it was racial.
So true, Scott! The best thing the Dissident Right can do right now is slowly accumulate institutional power where possible and position ourselves to where we can as a legitimate alternative to the mainstream when things start to go seriously bad.
Good piece. For some reason, Scott’s writing voice is more refined than his podcast voice. Lots of strong writing recently (to the extent my opinion counts, which it may not).
That said, if a political movement isn’t strong enough to take over the GOP, it’s not strong enough to secede, so probably would-be seceders should start there.
One other point to make is that rightwingers aren’t actually locked out of power… I don’t know why anyone thinks this.
That is - they might be locked out of working in the Harvard admissions department, or Biden White House, but nothing stops rightwingers from being a VP at nvidia or Dell, nor are there material barriers to getting a job at the IRS or FBI, or your local governors office in a red state, etc
Folks need to… get real jobs. We are not actually remotely close to a point where there’s nothing that can be done.
Great piece. “National divorce” and “get out of cities” rhetoric serves the same function on the Right that doctrinaire libertarianism did 15 years ago. Proponents don’t want to admit (to themselves or others) that they hold (legitimately subversive) opinions—or how hard it would be to turn those opinions into policy. So they avoid doing so with supposedly edgy fantasies. Thanks for doing yeoman’s work on this front and encouraging people to focus on the real concerns of white middle and working class Americans
Absolutely correct on all points.
Well you tell us to vote harder and we do but it never changes anything. Republicans had all three branches of the federal government from 2000 to 2006 and did next to nothing. Tea Party groups were mercilessly harassed by Obama's IRS from 2010 to 2012 which prevented them from fundraising to elect candidates and campaign against Obama's re-election bid. We voted hard for Trump in 2016 and again had all three branches of govt until the 2018 midterms and all we got was tax cuts and the First Step Act. In fact, during the Trump administration the radical left rampaged through the institutions and persecuted right of center voters like never before all while Trump entertained Kim Kardashian in the oval office and tweeted.
Now the radical left is attempting to keep right wing Republicans off the ballot using lawfare tactics. But there's no point to winning elections when Republicans refuse to wield power on behalf of their voters.
Scott says the states won't leave because they need federal assistance but look at E. Palestine, OH and the lack of federal support for that disaster should tell you that we are entering an era where Democrat administrations will not assist red states. Biden admin refuses to lift a finger in helping border states turn back illegal aliens and massive amounts of deadly drugs. The federal government, at least under Democrats, is fast becoming illegitimate.
Of course there are a lot of practical problems with an immediate national divorce but most who desire it know that and don't expect it to happen overnight. But Scott is like the CIA agents in the 1980's who confidently predicted that the Soviet Union would endure for decades before it suddenly collapsed a few short years later.
James Burnham’s Managerial Revolution, but all the managers take the Greerhead pledge.
Not a national divorce, but federalism is the answer. Why try to force Californians to live like people in Tennessee and vice versa?
Well, thanks for crushing my dreams today. No joke, though, I've thought about how that would look and you are 100% correct. The 2 ?s I have are these:
1. How are Republicans supposed to gain any power when the right to assemble is almost always spied upon and shut down, even for made up reasons?
2. What, exactly, can the average citizen do to advance the cultural and economic policies that are important to the Euro-western American ideal?
Scott, I wrote this on another post but deleted it. I think you are one of the most realpolitik conservative thinkers out there. But it seems that a lot of your focus especially your guests are about political philosophy, commentary on events, or historical analysis. I think there is a wide gap and need for conservative populist policy analysis and ideas. There is a coalition of non radical whites, assimilated Hispanics and a marriage of mutual interest with asians that haven’t intermarried and assimilated already (also their birthrate is really low so if immigration was stopped it wouldn’t be an issue).
The fiscally libertarian and socially faux conservative (10 year lag liberal) isn’t working, other nations are using state power to strip industries from us and we are socially much more radical than any other western country (Sweden banned transing kids and doctors openly state transitioning will not help patient outcomes). Looking at Chris rufo and his work in education we need to encourage the 30% of America that is conservatives to work at disbanding, negating or shrinking hostile policy and institutions.
For instance:
- analysis: how did the growth of colleges and necessity for a middle class allow far left actors funding and social institutional authority over broader society. Solution: reduction by eliminating general ed (most radical classes for normal majors and waste of 1.5 years and tuition), allowing high school students to take lower division classes online (economics 101 doesn’t need a uni professor and elimination at hostile institutions would reduce societal influence, would also be cheaper so 70/30 issue). Disbanding: 22 states republicans have all three branches they can eliminate gender and ethnic studies and dei, (this is where the focus should have been the last 30 years than complaining about some celebrity clearly trying to get attention, most countries would never allow these majors to exist, gender and ethnic classes should at most be one classes added on to a history major...not a major in itself). Negating: creating value option for students to only pay for classes they take and rejecting usage of faculty or material not including the professor and the class room (cheaper college is 70/30 issue).
-analysis: 50% black births not in a cohabitating or married couple, these are the main people going to prison and anti American. Solution: provide free iuds to all residents in us over 16. (these are the main source of anti Americanism outside of far left whites, providing this would reduce population, reduce crime, reduce welfare and ballot harvesting demographics and would provide answer to poverty outside of “just get married”...just don’t have kids if you can’t afford them we are giving you free birth control). This would also negate the abortion issue and allow to stop losing so dramatically among women (a much larger and reachable voter base than getting 10% more of the black vote...it’s not happening and even if it does it’s not game changing, winning 50% of young white women or more is)
-pushing the narrative that low skilled immigrants don’t help the economy when the benefits they recieve is more than how much they provide in taxes. This is the main pushback besides faux humanitarian angle that is pushed. If people realized that their taxes are subsidizing big businesses cheap labor it would change the Overton window on the issue. This should be pushed forward with machines and temporary work visas (no birthright).
-analysis: pat Buchanan (and other paleo cons) have noted the rapid population growth of theirs world counties with no prospects in their own country due to self negligence causing the push factor on migration. Solution: the main reason for this was the combination of the lowering of infant mortality (around 50% by 15 100 years ago) and the lack of women’s education and birth control (shortening child bearing window). Diverting 50bn from the military budget providing IUDs and women’s education to low income countries would solve this issue ....most developing countries that have done this are already below replacement fertility as their economy is not strong enough for pronatalist policies.
This sort of analysis is very lacking and it can be pushed in ways that are 70/30 issues. This is much more productive and mainstream ideas for cons to rally around than these fake soulutions/ Christian copes/ dems are the real racists/ conservative reactionary entertainment complex. This also will prevent what will happen in 20-40 year if mass unskilled (mostly illiterate, linguistically segregated) immigration married to anti-white rhetoric as the rallying solution to their economic woes .... an America Chavez... it’s simple a large lower class hostile to the rest of society will use their political power to take the others economic and military power.
As a GenXer, yes more federalism. That's how we started under the Articles of Confederation. We had a confederate system BEFORE the Civil War. I don't fancy political figures other than Trump consistently, but MTG saying shit which amounted to throwing shit out there and thinking out loud is a good thing. The more the rhetoric the better the critical mass. I don't out much stock in 1 million twit accounts. Trump has been the only one that has done anything that amounts to being a baller. The rest are legends in their own mind.
Dave49 and Always AdBlock, both you guys are seriously based. Feel like I'm in a tennis match.
I remember people calling up and discussing this subject on talk radio during the Rodney King riots. It was aired on the Bob Grant show and it was racial.
Things get a little bit tough and these women start clamoring for a divorce!
So true, Scott! The best thing the Dissident Right can do right now is slowly accumulate institutional power where possible and position ourselves to where we can as a legitimate alternative to the mainstream when things start to go seriously bad.
Good piece. For some reason, Scott’s writing voice is more refined than his podcast voice. Lots of strong writing recently (to the extent my opinion counts, which it may not).
That said, if a political movement isn’t strong enough to take over the GOP, it’s not strong enough to secede, so probably would-be seceders should start there.
One other point to make is that rightwingers aren’t actually locked out of power… I don’t know why anyone thinks this.
That is - they might be locked out of working in the Harvard admissions department, or Biden White House, but nothing stops rightwingers from being a VP at nvidia or Dell, nor are there material barriers to getting a job at the IRS or FBI, or your local governors office in a red state, etc
Folks need to… get real jobs. We are not actually remotely close to a point where there’s nothing that can be done.